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Post by greengopt on Jul 27, 2005 9:24:26 GMT -5
ok, we have an 04 5 speed base model pt, and after about 13,000 miles it has aquired a massive popping noise from the passenger's side front end when down shifting and stomping the gas, or just just letting the clutch out really quick. we took it to the dealer and they told me it was just the engine rocking back and forth in it's cradle, and it was normal. but for some reason, i really don't believe them because i have had front wheel drive cars before and drove them worse than i do this pt, and never once aquired this same noise. are there any TSB's on this problem, or has anybody else experienced what i'm describing? please let me know, the Demon PT needs to be fixed, it's driving me crazy.
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Post by bluecruiser on Jul 27, 2005 10:40:10 GMT -5
I have an 03' base model with the 5-speed and I've never heard any noises like that . It could be anything that could be loose that the jerking of a gear shift would create . I would try calling around to ever Chrysler dealership you can find a phone number for and see how many different answers you get . It also helps to talk with a service manager . Good Luck  |
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Post by JamesP on Jul 27, 2005 11:53:21 GMT -5
Hey Jimmy,
I know this might sound silly at only 13,000 miles but from past experience on other cars you might want to check the motor mount.Giving it gas real quick as you know makes the motor rock.Just a thought
James
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Post by crusinusa on Jul 29, 2005 13:03:05 GMT -5
Mine kinda did that when I hit about 90,000 miles. It only happened when I pressed the gas and during the first few gears. They said it was the mounts and something that I can't remember. It was mostly the mounts that caused most the problem. The car would feel like the front end was jumping or shaking very hard when giving it gas. Mine is an automatic.
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Post by FloweryBranchCrusr on Jul 30, 2005 8:05:43 GMT -5
Quite some time ago (like, when I was still under warranty  ), I had a similar problem. KIt was in several times before they finally fixed it. The service ticket said this: "Left hub bearing moving in knuckle Test drove several miles and in various conditions. Road and parking lot maneuvers. Checked with service management using chassis ear on lift. Difficult to duplicate popping noise. Was able to locate bumping in left rear. R&I LR wheel and mounted on machine. Found it out of round. More test drive and able to intermit duplicate popping. Narrowed noise to front suspension. Right lower control arm did show signs of movement. R&R arm. Test drove w/Mgt again. Still was able to intermit duplicate popping. Found noise coming from left front strut when going over speed bumps. R&R strut. More test driving revealed intermit popping on sharp turns. Removed both front axleshafts from new PT on lot and installed in this one. Did not fix. Swapped parts back. More test driving and rack inspection revealed left front bearing hub moving in knuckle. Replaced knuckle. Pressed bearing into hub and replaced. Performed alignment and had to install cam bolt on left. Test drove extensively. Was not able to duplicate any more noise." |
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Post by Patriot on Jul 30, 2005 12:20:20 GMT -5
Wow Darryl! How long did they keep your PT? Glad it was fixed!  Hope to get "Woodie" in the shop next week to get her back to new after being attacked by the highway "Black Gator"!  |
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Post by PT4U2C on Jul 30, 2005 21:08:56 GMT -5
There have been numerous posts(particularly on the PT Forums) about the bearing hubs wearing and having to be replaced. they are pressed in at the factory, are not servicable, and depending on use, milage, etc.., some have worn out at 50,000 to 90,000 miles. Mainly on the 2001's since they(obviously) are now at the highest milage and longest use. More than likely, the popping is movement of the bearing cup.
PT4U2C
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Post by FloweryBranchCrusr on Jul 30, 2005 22:17:29 GMT -5
Wow Darryl! How long did they keep your PT? As I recall, that was the 4th visit. I left it with them for 3-4 days that last time while Wanda and I left on a trip. It was when it was under 36K miles. I now have 145K+ miles. |
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Post by greengopt on Aug 4, 2005 10:40:52 GMT -5
i was told it was the motor rocking in the cradle, but i don't believe it, i think may be a motor mount, or possibly the bearing cup. does anybody have an actual TSB on either of these? That way i can print it off and take it with me to the dealer. they tell me it's normal and not to worry about it. but i can't stand it, and will not stand it for as long as we own the car, it didn't do it new, and it should not be doing it now. the dealer did install the camber kit on ours a while back because our front end was out of alignment, and our car didn't have it on it from factory, could this be part of the problem? the noise didn't exsist until then.
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Post by FloweryBranchCrusr on Aug 4, 2005 21:50:11 GMT -5
the dealer did install the camber kit on ours a while back because our front end was out of alignment, and our car didn't have it on it from factory, could this be part of the problem? the noise didn't exsist until then. In parole work, we call that a clue! |
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Post by greengopt on Aug 6, 2005 12:49:19 GMT -5
i know it is a clue, but without a TSB i can print out, i know what the dealer will say. but i'll argue anyway
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Post by PT4U2C on Aug 6, 2005 19:41:52 GMT -5
Greengopt
There is a bulletin #03-006-04 dated 9/15/04 describing rubber gasket install to half shaft that mounts to hub bearing assembly. Noise on turning, accelerating. etc.. Hope this helps.
PT4U2C
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Post by FloweryBranchCrusr on Aug 6, 2005 22:35:52 GMT -5
i know it is a clue, but without a TSB i can print out, i know what the dealer will say. but i'll argue anyway I guess I don't understand. If the sound came right after they installed something new, and we suspect the new item, what TSB would apply? If you return the car to the previous condition and the noise stops, we know the source of the problem. |
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Post by greengopt on Aug 8, 2005 7:40:55 GMT -5
thanks Richard, I will take thst with me to the dealer when I go back.
Flowery, you know how dealerships are, they won't and don't want to fix something that can later be fixed after your warranty has run out, thus costing "you" more money.
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Post by greengopt on Aug 26, 2005 10:44:48 GMT -5
Well, had the car in fro service yesterday for the popping front end and a clicking noise when letting the clutch out. The TSB did not apply to our car, as our build date was later than the cars under the TSB. Anyway, the popping was caused by a loose upper passenger's side motor mount, which they retorqued and aligned the engine back in place, evidently our engine had moved due to the loose mount. Now the front end is tight, like a new car should be, feels really good. The cluch clicking they were not able to fully diagnose, but they think it is the slave cylinder, so they had to order a new one. They could not guarantee me that would fix it, but said they would try that first. At least the front end is fixed, hopefully it will remain that way. If not, and it goes back again, then that will be the 3rd time in for that problem alone, as well a the headgasket problems we had previously with 4 trips in to the service dept to get that repaired. So, if we continue to have problems, we will go ahead and contact DC to start the Lemon Law procedure to buy the car back, we don't want a piece of crap that spends more time in the shop than in our garage. And sorry to say, if they buy it back, we will probably not buy another PT, the 06's are ugly in my opinion, saw one on the road yesterday on my way home. WE would maybe buy an 05 convertible, if they could find us one of our liking, but if not, it would be something else entirely. So we truly hope this is the end of the road for problems with this car, because we love our Demon, and we love the PT Community. So wish us luck.
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), I had a similar problem. KIt was in several times before they finally fixed it. The service ticket said this:
Hope to get "Woodie" in the shop next week to get her back to new after being attacked by the highway "Black Gator"! 
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