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Post by electricbluegt on Mar 16, 2005 21:56:50 GMT -5
Talk about your free mods. Many of you know that Rick recently upgraded ZZ Taupe's exhaust from a single magnaflow to a dual setup. In his unending generosity, he gave his magnaflow with a nice polished stainless steel anglecut tip to me for free(!). His car is a non-turbo while mine is an '03 GT. These supposedly have differing exhaust pipe sizes. (2.25 for non-turbo vs. 2.5 for the turbo cars, so I hear and have read) Well, tonight just for yucks to see what the muffler would look like, i removed mine and hung the magnaflow under there only to find it was a direct bolt on fit. I measured the inner diameter of the magnaflow pipe at 2.25 yet it still bolts right up to my system. I am wondering if some of the 03 GTs had the smaller pipe or if there is a reduction in the size somewhere upstream.
Rick, the muffler does't seem to be all that much louder than stock but it is quite a bit throatier. I will take the car out later to see how she sounds under load.
I'll keep ya posted.
Brian in Raleigh
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Post by JamesP on Mar 16, 2005 22:27:51 GMT -5
Good job brian!!!Sometimes you just have to try things to see if it will work without many mods.
James
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Post by dreamin2 on Mar 17, 2005 6:00:32 GMT -5
The GT's only have the 2.25 exhaust but breathe better with the 2.5
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Post by FlowRW on Mar 17, 2005 7:40:51 GMT -5
As I understand or at least from what I've read, the turbo is a tad quieter only because the turbo itself acts as somewhat of a muffler. As the exhaust gasses are passed through the turbo, it baffles the noise down some. I've read where some turbo owners are actually driving with no muffler at all and the sound is not much louder than stock.
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Post by Wally & Kathy on Mar 17, 2005 7:46:49 GMT -5
I thought the pipe was OD measurement (vs ID).
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Post by electricbluegt on Mar 17, 2005 9:02:29 GMT -5
Update on the magnaflow. Under full load the exhaust is no louder than stock. There is a very slight resonance at 1000rpm, when sitting at a stoplight for instance, and if you are cruising a get into the throttle a bit without the tranny downshifting, there is a bit of moan at 2.5-3krpm. The dreaded 3K drone while cruising isn't there. (whew)
Rick, you are right about the turbo being a baffle in the system to keep things quiet. I was actually counting on that being the case.
Tony, I hear ya on the 2.5 flowing better. I'm not too worried about the exhaust being only 2.25" but I did think that the turbo and non-turbo were different...hmmm. I'll have to hit the Service manual to verify the sizes.
Overall conclusion so far is a big "thumbs up". It's a bit louder at idle but not much louder anywhere else, especially full throttle.
My wife grimaced a bit when I first cranked it up in the garage. She was in the bonus room above and heard it. She's afraid I am digressing and becoming like my two ricer neighbors with totally obnoxious exhausts on their Civic and Escort ZX2!
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Post by crusinusa on Mar 17, 2005 9:05:34 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with rice as long as it's not high pitched. LOL.
I've got a big can on mine that puts out a low sound that makes it sound awesome to me and through town.
Good job on the mod.
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Post by electricbluegt on Mar 17, 2005 9:34:09 GMT -5
Gary,
Yeah, the Civic actually has a pretty throaty Greddy system on it. It's just very loud at certain rpms. Plus, he gets up in the morning, cranks his car around 6:30 and lets it run for about 20 min before leaving. It's like having a dumptruck running right in front of my house every morning. The other neighbor with the escort just has an all around "loud at any RPM" system and he runs in and out at all hours of the night with his car.
Another Kid a few blocks away has a stock Civic with a horrible "Bees in a can" mmuffler on his...very annoying.
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Post by tomcruz on Mar 17, 2005 12:12:55 GMT -5
The exhaust size for 'turbo' and 'non turbo' are the same......2.25". Only the tip is bigger.
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Post by JamesP on Mar 17, 2005 17:55:12 GMT -5
Thanks for all the info its always good to learn so you might be able to pass it on sometime .
James
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Post by crusinusa on Mar 18, 2005 8:27:49 GMT -5
Gary, Yeah, the Civic actually has a pretty throaty Greddy system on it. It's just very loud at certain rpms. Plus, he gets up in the morning, cranks his car around 6:30 and lets it run for about 20 min before leaving. It's like having a dumptruck running right in front of my house every morning. The other neighbor with the escort just has an all around "loud at any RPM" system and he runs in and out at all hours of the night with his car. Another Kid a few blocks away has a stock Civic with a horrible "Bees in a can" mmuffler on his...very annoying. That's pretty funny. LOL. I know what you mean about the bees in can. There are plenty of them here in Morganton. |
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Post by bluecruiser on Mar 19, 2005 12:23:20 GMT -5
What's so funny about most of these ricers is the car sounds like it's running 80 when it's barely pushing 30 . If your going to add some GROWL to your car , make sure it comes with the GO .
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Post by erb1016 on Mar 20, 2005 19:53:16 GMT -5
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Post by crusinusa on Mar 22, 2005 16:19:50 GMT -5
Wow, that is some great ideas. I think I'm going to Wal-Mart and Lowes!
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